@ehashmanAnyone comparing the philosophy of "open source" to "free software" without acknowledging the harmful stagnation and single-mindedness in the latter community is not making a thoughtful critique in the year 2022.
@zkat@ehashman what does "stagnation" mean for a community whose goal wasn't corporate uptake to begin with?
@zkat @ehashman the goal was user empowerment, but user empowerment accomplished by software running on your own computer
it's been obvious for a long time how companies can do an end run around that by making you use their computers instead of yours, but the free software movement just ... hasn't noticed at all? or at least hasn't adapted
@ehashman@toot.cat@technomancy @zkat and also, using their computer instead of yours is a significantly better experience in a majority of use cases? For the average user, not having to manage their own backups or data durability alone makes this worth it.
It's just a complete failure to understand the needs or challenges of the average person. The closest I have seen things get here is "use the free software hosted service we run instead which is significantly more expensive and worse than the proprietary counterpart!"
@ehashman @technomancy @zkat and stuck on a specific solution to the problem of user empowerment that worked for a specific set of people and insisting that is the universal solution :(
@ehashman @technomancy @zkat What is your solution? The FSF website is actually explaining that issue to users and @lxo even discussed the issue of self hosting and what an alternative strategy to this could be. Did any of the "open source" organisations do that? Nevertheless, there are plenty of shared hosting collectives like https://www.chatons.org/ and projects like #freedombox that provide reliable self hosting.