i showed this to @jamey and he pointed out the “payment-aware blockchain-based routing protocol” which raises a lot of yellow flags 😬 now im reading the whitepaper

@garbados wow, this is fascinating. There's a lot of potential with community mesh networks. I went to a presentation from mesh organizers in Detroit and others in Brooklyn. They talked about how both going door to door to sign people up and also reaching out local businesses, churches, rec centers, etc. to host the nodes was a great facilitator for strengthening the community.

@clayton that’s so good to hear. woo cooperation!

@garbados

many (most, even?) ISP terms of service disallow resale.

@deejoe it’s not resale. you connect to a network backbone directly and spread the mesh from there.

@garbados @jamey Yeah, I was waiting to boost until I had time to do that... I'll be curious to hear your thoughts.

@cstanhope @jamey for blockchain tech, it actually makes a great deal of sense. consider this, from the whitepaper:

> The base primitive that Althea is built on is a pay-for-forward network. If all the mechanisms in the preceding sections work correctly, we have a network where nodes can pay each other very granularly for the service of forwarding data, and verify that the forwarding is happening correctly.

a traditional ISP charges flat-ish fees for usually-unlimited traffic, which makes a certain kind of sense, but those ISPs in practice are usually malicious. devolving those costs to a pay-for-forward model is more appropriate for decentralized network infrastructure as the ISP is actually a web of independent parties who all incur their own costs. this isn’t a pyramid scheme where some people get rich because others get fucked, like blockchain stuff often is, but a way of accounting for the costs already associated with the maintenance of network infrastructure.

@cstanhope @jamey but im not done with the whitepaper so consider this a preliminary analysis

@garbados @jamey I think they might be trying to monetise peering agreements

@troubleMoney @jamey i mean, many peering agreements are already monetized by large ISPs. it looks like althea monetizes peering as part of devolving costs and revenues to user communities, which feels more “necessary under capitalism” than “greedy and exploitive” like major ISPs are.

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