Uh, hi! We're back. Much thanks to former admin ash, who actually understands how these things work.

We have a mitigation plan to make this less painful in the future.

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@woozle hmm looks like timelines are running a little slow but I assume that's because they're catching up?

@Eris That seems likely. There may also be some indexing and stuff going on, just at a guess.

Let me know if it's still problematic in a few hours.

@woozle it's definitely already getting better, so no worries.

@woozle yay! sorry it sucked, glad it worked! sysadmin is such BS sometimes.

@woozle welcome back! Yeah these showed up just now

@dredmorbius I'll have to see how that's implemented. I know back in the earlier days, a lot of people explicitly did not want that because it gave fascists a way to find people to target -- so I think it needs to be opt-in.

Also, it looks like implementing it means setting up yet another server daemon (elasticsearch) -- whatever happened to "SELECT * WHERE Text LIKE "%string%"? it partly depends on how much of a beast that is.

@dredmorbius Looks like it only lets users search their own toots, so that addresses the opt-in issue.

@woozle Yes, there's an additional service.

If I could have the ability to search even just my own toots, I'd find this tremendously useful.

Self-expiring toots seems to me one way of getting past the old-history problem. I'm aware of people who do this, through third-party tools AFAIU.

I have ... complex thoughts on how expiration might be tweaked and tuned --- say, either marking stuff as everlasting or having different TTLs for different levels of engagement. That whole "everything is on your permanent record" thing seems problematic, of course.

On a simple basis, there's very little content that has meaningful value after a few days or weeks. I believe old-school Usenet effectively had 2--4 week retention.

The flipside, of course, is that such a deletion policy would be an advisory / conventional (as in, expressed-as-a-convention) practice only. A datavore / gargoyle (I'm re-reading Snow Crash ...) could of course spin up an instance and follow whatever profiles were of interest, retaining eternal records.

I don't know that there's a legal mechanism around this --- e.g., an expiring or revokable or time-limited (or time-extensible) copyright licence, say. That ... might be an interesting approach within / similar to Creative Commons. Even then, Fair Use / Fair Dealing issues remain, and copyright is a fundamentally commercial concept, not a privacy-based one.


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