Okay, it's official: I really hate Mastodon's post-length limit. No other social network software has it. Why do we? ...except for being more like Twitspace, which doesn't really seem like a laudable goal tee-bee-queue-aitch.

@woozle

tusky (android client) now says i have char limit of 123456

i think (writing) limits helpful

editing can be beneficial (both for readers and writers)

my experience is that many have exalted notions of self-importance which trump other concerns, including clear communication and concern for the reader and their time

also, there are other venues for longer texts.

short (sharp) texts have value too

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@js0000 ash upped the limit whilst I was asleep ;-)

The thing about people making posts that are too long: they're easy to skip over, especially with the feature that auto-hides everything below the first line or so by default. ...and the character limit doesn't stop people from tootstorming (nor would anyone want this); it just makes longer-form posts harder to do overall proofing-before-posting, and also can result in tangled conversations where different people are responding to different toots in the thread.

...and, yeah, while we're at it, Masto really needs a "preview" feature, especially with the formatting options GlitchSoc provides.

What venues would you recommend for longer-form posts? I set up a Hubzilla instance, but it goes largely unused. (The people I interact with there tend, overwhelmingly, to be on Diaspora -- which doesn't even support text-formatting, as far s I can tell; I don't see the appeal.) There's also Friendica, which I haven't tried in a long time because my instance got stuck during an upgrade and I haven't had time to sort it out.

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@woozle @js0000 I just wanted to add that with a no-character-limit, there is nothing to prevent someone from making short posts if that's what they want to do... but with a character-limit, you can't choose to write a long one if that's what you want to do. It just seems more flexible all around.

It's like bringing a jacket when you're not sure what the weather will be doing... you can always take off a jacket if you end up too warm... but if you get cold, you can't put on a jacket you don't have.

@woozle

longer form writing:
books, essays, blogs, zines
(i prefer to read longer things on paper ...)

i think the screen is better for shorter things (matching our "hurry up" culture)

i think you and i may be quite different in terms of our opinions on the efficacy of written words; nonetheless, toot.cat (apparently) has room for both of us.

why can't more human (cultural) activities be like this?

thx!

@js0000 I meant software for social interaction. Back on G+ there were a lot of people who wrote some really excellent long-form posts, often leading to very interesting discussions, and I miss that.

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