"We were unknowingly infected with a follow-bot who caused significant technical and financial problems on our instance. Other instances, while knowing, did not warn us about that, but just silently unfederated from us. And it was even more effort getting federation back than it was to fix the follow-bot problem.

This could happen to everyone! Any instance can be a victim!"

"Now think about how 4channers ... can ... cause [any] instance to be cut off from a significant chunk of fediverse, without its admin noticing? Do we want to help them dismantle the fediverse?

Warn other instances' admins about bad things going on, not just silently unfederate from them!"

(A thread about some problems my instance bumped into - thankfully mostly resolved now, but there are some lessons for all to learn from this: embracing.space/@admin/1046260)

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Now think about how 4channers or other bad actors can create a similar bot on any instance with open registrations (or just having an user with a weak password), and in that way cause such an instance to be cut off from a significant chunk of fediverse, without its admin noticing? Do we want to help them dismantle the fediverse?

Warn other instances' admins about bad things going on, not just silently unfederate from them!

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Conclusion on our federation problems, lessons for other instances (1/3) 

All the previous post-mortem boils down to this: we were unknowingly infected with a follow-bot who caused significant technical and financial problems on our instances. Other instances, while knowing, did not warn us about that, but just silently unfederated from us. And it was even more effort getting federation back than it was to fix the follow-bot problem.

This could happen to everyone! Any instance can be a victim!

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@diligentcircle@lgbt.io @hannah I think it blocks gab? :)

(I, too, did not get an answer regarding my instance... it's a shame, considering there is a lot of good folks on lgbt.io - including you!)

@diligentcircle@lgbt.io @hannah Sorry for intrusion, but did you learn anything about the reasons? :)

(I'm in similar position; and IIRC we were mutuals in 2019 until lgbt.io silently unfederated from my instance too 🤷🏽‍♀️)

@porsupah @self Err... not sure what does my instance have to do with these instances you mentioned?
Especially considering that gs.smuglo.li was blocked on my instance from the beginning: web.archive.org/web/2019042221

@porsupah I mean the feedback, on why lgbt.io unfederated from my instance. I understand you do not owe me an explanation, but I just thought you might have forget about that previous discussion, and wanted to remind...

@admin @porsupah Hi! I'm sorry for tagging you personally but I'm not sure if somebody is reading messages sent to @self . Maybe you can check it?

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@admin @self
Hi! I've noticed that you have unfederated from my instance embracing.space. Unfortunately, I have no idea what went wrong (I never received any related moderation reports), and I think that our values align very much.

Could you please check if it is a mistake? Or if anything indeed went wrong with some users of my instance, I would greatly appreciate some feedback so that I can deal with that.

Thanks!

@zen Thank you! I wonder where did you copy it from...

@zen @admin
Hi! I've noticed on the "about" page of your instance (social.net.ua) that you have unfederated from my instance (embracing.space).
I have no idea why that could be, and I never received any moderation reports from you. Could you please tell me what was the problem?

So toot.cat is nice and all, but I'm currently trying to build another community :)

Off to embracing.space/@penartur

And just in case anybody needs to set up their own Mastodon instance for cheap, I've published a detailed step-by-step instruction there: github.com/penartur/mastodon-v

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you can summarize every private gnu mailing list thread with this tweet.

RT @andrewheiss@twitter.com
Excited to use this "Individual-1" business as an example of how to not anonymize qualitative data in a future methods class

@andyw Oh, I understand now. I'm thinking of creating an instance for certain small community which will hopefully federated with many other instances, and they seem to be a bit too expensive, given that there are dirt cheap VM at hetzner.de ...

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