Programmer friends: Many of us have deeply-ingrained habits of making fun of whichever languages, tools, OSes, etc we don't personally use. Please don't. I highly recommend reading Aurynn Shaw's essay on "Contempt Culture", which I have to revisit myself periodically: https://blog.aurynn.com/2015/12/16-contempt-culture
@jamey This is a very good essay.
Also, a fellow New Zealander! Yay!
We Kiwis/Australians (even the white ones) have a whole *backpack* of baggage about being second-class citizens because we're neither American nor British and have completely different seasons and yet have to keep trying to be American to invisibly blend into the English-speaking Internet.
You'd think that experience would make us more tolerant but it doesn't, always.
We're watching what's happening in the USA/UK with horror, yes. Most especially because it often gets exported here. Also we sort of beta-tested the big rightward swing of 'left' parties back in 1984. :(
And our housing unaffordability crisis is probably worse than Vancouver or London, compared to median wage.
There's a global democratic meltdown and we're not nearly as protected from it as we think.
@natecull @amphetamine @jamey I love your land, but come come. Everyone who reads elite journals knows the nail biting global plutocracy and much of their sycophant classes have long ago bought Aotearoa to be their private little Galt’s Gulch. Count the number of secluded estates in your backyard, then we can chat about Democratic feet.
@jorty I wouldn't say I disagree with you on anything you said here, but I feel like it's kiiind of missing the point?
Contempt culture finds excuses to hate a thing. Doesn't matter whether the language ignores 50 years of PL theory or has the latest dependent type system, somebody's going to hate it. People fail to acknowledge that there are reasons why people use particular tools, and those reasons might not be ones I care about, but that doesn't make them less important. Empathy matters.
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