"the ads don't bother me much. i hardly notice them anymore" is such a cursed thing to hear, every time i hear it
but like am i gonna blame folks for trying to cope with surveillance capitalism? it's not their fault, how they're watched and manipulated. it's not their fault, the dearth of accessible tooling and safe defaults. this system of disenfranchisement is not their fault. i don't blame them for coping.
@garbados to be fair, I don't notice the ads that get blocked by the adblocker
@garbados it takes a lot of mind bending to shut them out
id rather not spend my energy trying to NOT see an ad or hear it
@lugh i think i'm with you.
> it takes a lot of mind bending to shut them out
or, like, an ad-blocker
but then you find you're mostly operating in environments where you can't use an ad-blocker, or the site blocks YOU for blocking ads... they don't want you to stop seeing them, but it's perfectly acceptable if you persuade yourself that you don't see them anymore.
@rubah if you meant my post, i hope this helps. if not. my bad.
i dont want to use what little energy i have into trying to blank out the advert in my mind
i would like my energy, it would be great if i could NOT use this energy in ignoring an ad
@garbados It bugs the crap out of me when the local public radio station is constantly saying, "tell your smart speaker to play WUNC...." Can public radio at least not promote surveillance devices like that?
@tbeckett they don't think of it as surveillance. it's just convenient. and in a humane world, that's all it would be. the speech processing software would be onboard, anything remotely personal would never go anywhere, etc. but we don't live in that world and, motivated by an astonishing lack of agency due to power imbalances, it's easier for most folks to just pretend it isn't happening.
and in the case of the *advertisement* you described, there's no incentive to do anything but play it up to increase engagement.
@tbeckett like, something people do, but rich people especially, is get really defensive about their choices. if you're public radio and your donor class mostly owns smart speakers, because they have money to trivially acquire such conveniences, how will they react when you tell them they're funding a police state? well, they might stop being a donor. so what do you tell them? "tell your smart speaker to play WUNC!"
when i try to talk to rich people about this stuff they throw it back at me. "if it's really so bad, why aren't people outraged?" well, they are, but poverty is a bitch you'll never understand, so 🤷♀️
@garbados *sigh* Indeed.
@garbados just like every abusive barage, it is often easier for a good portion of the population to passively phase out the pain or noise, rather than actively remove it from one's life, and all the consequences thereof. In the fight/flight/freeze, it is the equivalent to a chronic freeze response.
@garbados i hate that false sense of security/superiority that so many people have, they think they're immune to society somehow
@_ shaking my ass in their face wearing booty shorts that read YOU ARE NOT IMMUNE TO PROPAGANDA
@garbados and they always base their whole life around the idea. politics, philosophy, personality, they all end up flowing from this egotistical denial that just doesn't hold up in practice
@garbados "I'm so not immune to propaganda, it's just automatic at this point"
@garbados For me, it's not about the surveillance or anything. I also hate ads that are just posters plastered around, not only ads on computers.
I mean, it's bad enough when it's not on computers; the spying is just the poop-covered cherry on top.
@garbados Twitter pro: can block any account, including all promotional accounts
Twitter con: the ads are 25% of all posts
@Ethancdavenport my partner showed me an ad yesterday of someone paying to boost pictures of their pet crow. no pitch, no sale, no click-through, none of it. it's just an individual who, for whatever fucking reason, wanted to spend their own money to increase engagement on *pictures of their pet crow*
@garbados I cannot say I would not do the same in their place, had I but a single corvid companion.
At least it’s not an ad for whatever garbage Hollywood shat out most recently.
@garbados "the ads don't bother me much. i hardly notice them anymore" — a person whistling a jingle.
@garbados "I don't even notice the emotional manipulation anymore"
Things TV watchers said about ads just before DVR was invented. Immediately after: "augh, pause it, skip it, why are we watching this?!"
@garbados so many kids are growing up without adblock :(
"ads have no effect on me" is the answer I've gotten every single time I've ever asked a person who watches significant TV about the effect of ads. So what, all of the advertisers are just foolishly wasting money?
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