me, any time programming comes up: this reminds me that we should unionize

me, whenever there is a data breach: programmers should definitely unionize

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whenever corpers use software for blatantly evil stuff that gets people killed: yeah we should definitely unionize

whenever i meet another programmer: have you ever thought about... unionizing?

whenever i hear “meritocracy”: oof, sounds like we need a union

whenever another programmer mentions unionizing: solidarity forever! solidarity forever! for the union makes us strong

i am always two key words away from singing solidarity forever, and for our mutual safety i cannot reveal them

visiting your startup’s office which occupies an old textile mill littered with the ghosts of workers past: mmm smells like you need a union in here

@inmysocks hah! you didn’t think it would be th— It is we who plowed the prairies; built the cities where they trade;
Dug the mines and built the workshops, endless miles of railroad laid;
Now we stand outcast and starving midst the wonders we have made;
But the union makes us strong.

Solidarity forever,
Solidarity forever,
Solidarity forever,
For the union makes us strong!

@garbados @inmysocks

Well, at least it gave us the 5 day work week. And the idea of vacation/sick pay. Job site safety. And a zillion other things we hardly notice anymore.

Unions have their shares of issues, but they are far outweighed by *not* having unions. Yes, programmers should unionize. Lawyers and doctors are doing it, too.

@June when i lived in boston this described like half of all offices i visited, but also have you thought about unionizing?

@garbados i don't work there anymore because i was nearly killed by the stress and have ptsd that i'm still recovering from

@June sympathies. i went through similar. no one should have to. glad you’re still here with us ❤️✊️

@garbados (lol i visited my old work's website which fit this definition exactly and looks like they've been using the SSL certs that are now no longer trusted by firefox oh wow i bet they're having A Time with this on the thousands of embedded tablets. haha fuck them)

@garbados also, it immediately brings to mind naomi wu’s ‘everything is about merit until merit has tits’ for me.

@garbados The solution for this specific issue is a professional body, not a union. Most other professions (e.g. engineers, nurses) require licensing from one or more such bodies. This license is a double edge sword. On the one hand only a licensed engineer can stamp a design, and only a registered nurse can administer specific medicine. On the other, if a stamped design fails, or a nurse kills someone, that individual is at fault.

@garbados In this example, to implement the evil thing in the first place would require an individual with a license. And if that evil thing killed someone, the licensed individual who implemented it would be at fault.

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