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why organize tech workers? 

> why organize? don't you, as a software dev, get paid enough?

1. no, i don't
2. without my knowledge or consent, things i've made have killed people, and my only options were to shrug or quit
3. work should not give you PTSD
4. worker rights and communal welfare is about more than pay. it's about power dynamics, accountability, representation, and taking the craft back from the profiteers who readily dispose of us

why organize tech workers? 

tfw when you think you're building tooling for a foursquare clone but you're really writing predator targeting software 😬

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why organize tech workers? 

@garbados
Have you been following Liz Fong et al's attempt to organize engineers at Google?

why organize tech workers? 

@freakazoid not closely. i'm honestly kinda disconnected from a lot of this stuff because it all happens on twitter 😬

why organize tech workers? 

@garbados you mean at the end, i'll have to write _good_ software? i don't think i'm ready for that :-(

why organize tech workers? 

@devurandom yeah idk either, it's gonna be a trip. "what do you mean there's no trackers or paywalls? HOW WOULD THAT EVEN WORK??"

why organize tech workers? 

@garbados i mean, that's an interesting issue. obviously, people who work in media need some way to be rewarded for their often expensive and (in case of journalism) dangerous work.

so far, all of the models that capitalism has come up with have their own issues, so i'd be interested in finding out if there are viable alternatives.

why organize tech workers? 

@devurandom profit makes journalism bad, so it needs to be disconnected from that motive to be worth a damn. the path i favor there is to disconnect the worker's welfare from their workplace. then journalists do journalism for journalism's sake, not for clicks or cash.

why organize tech workers? 

@devurandom @garbados I've been repeatedly told that monitoring is crucial to running a reliable service - but monitoring doesn't intrinsically need to violate privacy. (And a lot of what I'm actually using day to day doesn't, at all.)

why organize tech workers? 

@riking @devurandom aye, monitoring doesn’t need to be surveillance. system and service monitoring to preserve uptime or quality standards is different from selling user behavior to the highest bidder.

why organize tech workers? 

@garbados on 4.) The problem is too many tech workers covet those positions of power themselves. In order for them to agree to organise they have to give up on the idea of ever obtaining them.

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