we have turned the internet into one of the largest repositories of human knowledge and expression in history but we have also paywalled the shit out of it. people have been killed attempting to liberate this data while other artifacts have been barred from distribution entirely because our legal systems can't decide who should profit from the works of the dead
separatists have held secession referendums in what have been called illegal elections. they distributed voting materials over the darkweb which have since been labeled illegal numbers.
point of order: wtf is the darkweb besides a buzzword?
@garbados tor-based piracy/porn/illicit goods markets basically I think?
@theoutrider like, tor specifically? when i see it in marketing i just have no idea what mediums they mean
@garbados fairly sure it's all but synonymous with tor in most mainstream reporting
either that or IRC
@theoutrider irc is the darkweb lmao
@garbados Any place on the internet that search engines don't index. So TOR, but also unlisted Facebook groups, certain types of forums, JSTOR, university databases....
@Canageek yeah alright, that fits my reflexive understanding of the term
Another term for "clearnet" is the WWW, because that's really what most people connect to: HTTP over TCP port 80 (serving HTML); HTTPS is served over port 443.
In contrast, onion sites are served with TOR over TCP ports 443, 9001, 9030 (also as HTML).
Even a hidden service is accessed using HTTP (is this what you mean with "TOR over TCP")?
My understanding of Tor is that it just tunnels a connection byte stream making sure only the exit node can decrypt a whole thing, without disclosing other details like TCP connection metadata.
If used within a browser, the byte stream contains a HTTP request.
Anything not routed through cloudflare or linked off facebook. :p
@garbados it can mean just typically inaccessible or private servers but colloquially it refers to TOR or the onion network which allows access to some less than legal content (at various levels of gray morality)
More info on this?
@joamo oct 1 referendum in catalonia http://www.eurekastreet.com.au/article.aspx?aeid=54133
@garbados also there was the whole deCSS thing
@garbados Illegal Prime Numbers etc
@theoutrider i learned about this as of this morning actually lol
@devurandom aaron swartz
@garbados thought he committed suicide...
@devurandom tomato tomahto imo. he had been hounded, haunted, and intimidated by prosecutors for years at that point
@devurandom but then my take on suicide is that even if you kill yourself it can still be someone or something else that murdered you
@garbados I completely agree with this take. People generally don’t just take their life for no reason. It’s often the result of years of abuse that had been eating away at them.
There is always the vast repository of mostly useless knowledge that is free...and cat pictures...
hm. many good works avail us, but long is the path to liberation
pirate bay is a funny example here. public DHTs make it trivial for corpers to surveil distribution.
@xj9 "solved problem" implies the presence of much more mature tooling than we've got. i2p is nice but it's also about as inaccessible as anything else in the scene.
@xj9 oh, i understand. yeah, no argument here.
@xj9 it's definitely striking how often our tech is basically a more mature version of crap developed in the 70s
@xj9 like, our tools Cannot be solely for us, and it degrades us to blame the many for the barriers we have left standing.
today we've got shit like this:
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