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I predict that in 50 years or so, the way we use plastics today—from clothing to cosmetics to packaging—will be viewed the same way we now think of DDT or freon

My main hangup on oil divestment used to be that plastics were so ubiquitous and no one had an actual plan to stop using *those,* so clearly the anti-oil advocates weren't actually committed or serious

But plastics are just as harmful to the planet as burning fossil fuels.

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@ehashman I think about this a lot in my professional life. So much of modern electronics wouldn't work with e.g. wooden connectors or packaging (for chip dies, etc.).

@wohali beyond plastics, the environmental and social consequences of mining for most electronic base materials/components is unconscionable. SV still has elevated baseline cancer rates from solvents from IBM's hard drive manufacturing polluting the groundwater, and previously lush orchards now house superfund sites. But, out of sight, out of mind :/

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i hope so

(alternative some kinda dystopia: enclaves of rich, massive toxic slums for others)

@ehashman Oh, you nutty optimists, believing there will be a habitable planet in 50 years!

@ajdunevent furthermore: twitter.com/sammymarie/status/

We have a responsibility to heal this place. Climate fatalism will only drive us towards inaction

@ehashman Point taken! I'll rethink jokes like that in the future.

@ehashman Um, that wasn't supposed to sound so defensive. I genuinely agree and hadn't considered the consequences of that sort of dismissive humor.

@ehashman if this would be a bet, what are the odds you're willing to take?

@dpwiz @ehashman Well, if they win they'll be dead and so will any person that could even inherit the benefit of the bet, so really they shouldn't accept any odds over zero.

@varx @ehashman note that such stance nullifies the prediction too i.e. brings no information to the public.

@ehashman BTW, what do you mean by "the way"?

Personally, I don't think plastic is on the same shelf as DDT. It is versatile, cheap and durable. And lifted quite a few people out of outright abysmal living conditions. It's the single-use/disposable consumerist mentality that's putting shit tons of plastic waste out in the world.

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