@ehashman I think about this a lot in my professional life. So much of modern electronics wouldn't work with e.g. wooden connectors or packaging (for chip dies, etc.).

@wohali beyond plastics, the environmental and social consequences of mining for most electronic base materials/components is unconscionable. SV still has elevated baseline cancer rates from solvents from IBM's hard drive manufacturing polluting the groundwater, and previously lush orchards now house superfund sites. But, out of sight, out of mind :/

@ehashman Yup. Conflict minerals enable our careers.

@ajdunevent it's been through worse

@ajdunevent furthermore: https://twitter.com/sammymarie/status/1412085891321896964

We have a responsibility to heal this place. Climate fatalism will only drive us towards inaction

@ehashman Point taken! I'll rethink jokes like that in the future.

@ehashman Um, that wasn't supposed to sound so defensive. I genuinely agree and hadn't considered the consequences of that sort of dismissive humor.

@ajdunevent no worries :)

@dpwiz @ehashman Well, if they win they'll be dead and so will any person that could even inherit the benefit of the bet, so really they shouldn't accept any odds over zero.

@varx @ehashman note that such stance nullifies the prediction too i.e. brings no information to the public.

@dpwiz I think the odds are good, but it will take work. https://toot.cat/@ehashman/106598281859101349

@ehashman BTW, what do you mean by "the way"?

Personally, I don't think plastic is on the same shelf as DDT. It is versatile, cheap and durable. And lifted quite a few people out of outright abysmal living conditions. It's the single-use/disposable consumerist mentality that's putting shit tons of plastic waste out in the world.