just read an apartment therapy before/after article about a kitchen renovation and the person said they got rid of their dishwasher because they don't have many dishes to clean (fine) and that it seems like a water waster (completely wrong!!!) and I screamed internally. hand washing uses much more water!!!
@dthompson I remember being shocked to find out just how much more efficient modern day dishwashers are at water use than hand washing. Did not expect it.
@cwebber yeah it's counterintuitive for some reason. thanks federal efficiency regulations! hope they don't get rolled back!
@dthompson @joeyh @wobblysaeeda on a mild tangent, look at this delightful ad for this hand-cranked (and apparently not very well working) mechanical dishwasher https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dishwasher#/media/File:The_Faultless_Quaker_Dishwasher_(1896_advertisement).jpg
Cooking food in dishwashers
@cwebber also what does MRE stand for?
@dthompson Meal, Ready to Eat!
I have been figuring out how to make "just add hot water" vegetarian meals. I have quite a few recipes!
@dthompson @joeyh @wobblysaeeda Actually I bet this can be combined with the dehydrated MRE type food things I've been doing. If you pack individual meals into the tiny mason jars, then add water into them right before running the dishwasher and put them in the dishwasher, I bet it will cook them pretty well
This is a terrible idea and I have to try it now
@joeyh @mlemweb @wobblysaeeda @dthompson @cwebber Modern dishwashers don't need heat exchangers because they recirculate the water, and a heat exchanger would require regular cleaning to avoid clogging with food. They do have thermostatically controlled water heaters though, so cooking food in one would not save any energy because it would have to expend more energy to keep the water hot.
@cwebber @dthompson I have also internalized the surprising information that dishwashers are probably a lot more efficient than they seem. But are they more efficient even if you're just washing a small number of dishes?
And I wash dishes by hand in ways that aren't very efficient (like keeping the water running), but I don't have an easy way to measure how inefficient.
@dthompson I wonder if "European style" handwashing is more efficient (where you soap the dishes and fill the sink and wash them out in the same disgusting sudsy water) - rather than 'American style' where you have the tap running and wash each dish with fresh water.
@dthompson I guess double quotes are European and single quotes are American (I know they're not really quotes but python gives me bad habits - as does being an unfashionable nun)
@wobblysaeeda I would suspect that both are less efficient, with the latter being obviously way less efficient. when I hand wash I typically have a larger item like a bowl that I fill with the soapy water, then I scrub, then I run the faucet at the very end to rinse each item.
@dthompson That's a pretty good system. I also try not to pre-rinse when I use a dishwasher (they are better than I think they will be) to avoid using too much water.
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