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I dunno how I haven't been aware of the Istanbul cymbal brand this whole time. they look really nice and are cheap, relatively speaking, to the major brands like Zildjian, Sabian, and especially Meinl. I've been wondering what cymbals the Deafheaven drummer users to get such a nice wall of sound, turns out he landed an endorsement because he uses Istanbul Xist exclusively. I can get brand new Xist line cymbals for the price I've been getting used Sabian AAX/HHX stuff.