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This new classic is making the rounds on HN again: vitavonni.de/blog/201503/20150

The article is centered around the observation that no one knows how to build Hadoop from source. One comment says that reproducible builds exist now and that Nix provides a reproducible Hadoop package.

There's a problem, however. Contrary to what many think, Nix isn't particular rigorous about build reproducibility. Their Hadoop package just patches pre-built binaries from the Apache project!

github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/

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good thing I didn't spell it right otherwise I would have run out of characters!

@dthompson
I'm not sure what you mean here. Patching a binary extracted from a sha256 identified tarball seems as reproducible as you can get (for a pre-built binary).

Sure it's not from source, but it is entirely reproducible. Now... I wouldn't call that a build 😋

@nixy it doesn't satisfy the definition of a reproducible build: reproducible-builds.org/docs/d

"A build is reproducible if given the same source code, build environment and build instructions, any party can recreate bit-by-bit identical copies of all specified artifacts."

so, starting from a binary doesn't count as a reproducible build.