@nev What's a good way to get in touch?

@audrey I'll make a post on the sub-forum we have (for the committee dealing with this). How much would you charge?

@nev $200 would be in line with my usual consulting

@audrey k, thanks! Am on the go right now but will post to the group when I'm back at my computer

@marknoble @audrey Codes of Conduct are like contracts. You make contracts before there's trouble so that when things *do* go wrong there's clearly defined rules and actions to take. Without them, it's ridiculously for things to spiral out of control.

@ThatTupperKid @marknoble I wrote about some of the reasons here: http://safetyfirstpdx.org/resources/code_of_conduct.html

@ebel @jamey I heard that the State of the Map folks are getting a consultant to work on the CoC for the event, so maybe that will benefit the general discussion?

@audrey @jamey SotM (and various regional cons) has had a CoC for years. Dunno how good it is, a consultation can't hurt I suppose. 🙂

@neomorph A lot of groups can do fine by using a standard CoC and creating their own enforcement plan using resources like safetyfirstpdx.org. But — in practice, I’ve found a ton of CoCs that are confusing or unwise. Also, groups may want something that reflects specific values or goals beyond what’s in the template.

@audrey Thank you so much for the reply, really enlightening for someone like me who knows nothing or very little about these matters. thanks for taking the time to explain :)

@neomorph @audrey if you are serious about it, it is a lot of work. even if you take one off-the-shelf, you still need to figure out what its words mean to _you_.

also: who feels responsible for its implementation!

@tethre @audrey yeah, I have to say that is a good point. maybe these things are in fact waaay harder than I previously imagined haha